How do forensics work on such events? For example, the 911 call of Kevin Cosgrove, I can’t speak specifically to a plane crash, but I have been in a very sudden “life in danger” scenario myself (I was on fire; sustained pretty bad burns) and I now work in emergency medicine. They had 26 seconds between the first sign of trouble and the crash. Usually with DVI, responders use DNA profiling, Fingerprints, Odontology or physical indications (tattoos, scars, surgical implants)- although, visual identification isn’t considered accurate. Just trying to get an idea of what the forensic team encountered at the scene. Welcome! Sometimes nothing but fragments, and I don't mean arms and legs. it makes you realize we’re really just flesh and bones. They do have a 911 recording of someone right as the building collapse started and you can here him starting to scream as the building fell and then the line went dead.

I'm wondering if it's a situation where they were able to find the lifeless bodies intact or if it's just bits and pieces in the rubble.

If the helicopter exploded, body parts would have flown in different directions making it an even more complex job. Most people don’t feel afraid during the life threatening event because every shred of processing power in the brain is dedicated to figuring out the new reality. collisions like this and all the metal deformation generate intense heat and ignite the fuel, so anything surviving that initial impact would be roasted pretty quick. I’ve looked for it and it’s not the series of articles by the Florida paper. I've always wondered, anytime there's a plane crash and people die, how to they identify the bodies to return them to family? Or would would I not even live past that initial trauma? I feel it’s very likely most people in plane crashes don’t die afraid or in pain—but rather in confusion. Literally plummeting to your death without any control. During this phase it’s important for one person NOT to collect both AM and PM data of a body, because this introduces bias and you start to see things you don’t actually see (you go out of your way to find the similarities). Most people carry their wallets on their person. if you Google other accident photos, you’ll see people just filleted into little pieces everywhere. I've always assumed that since the aircraft bursts into a giant fireball on impact, all the bodies get essentially disintegrated. You instinctively pull away from the burn before you even realize what's going on.

That’s rancid. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Suppose you even take up the space of 1 m. You would have 1/90 sec of impact time. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Again this is all hearsay but gives you an idea of how bad crash was, lol my sisters baby cousin Tracy did seened it, The families got the bodys now..I cant imagine what they will see..or if it is too horrific. Disaster Victim Identification (DVI) depends on the severity of the disaster and if bodies are intact or not. Same with the time I got knocked out skateboarding. I feel a lot of people have gone out thinking “Wait...what?”. I was totally aware of everything flying around me as my car was pushed across the intersection and flipped in its side. And if there's absolutely nothing left (not even fragments)to use will they deem everyone uniditenfiable and use the passenger list as the victims list ? I can’t locate the article, but I think it was about the crash outside of Pittsburgh. That's how they stay. I saw a photo of the downed chopper and it appeared to be intact as opposed to total rubble. And it also have examples of activities 26 seconds long for comparison. I.e. Doesnt what youre hitting and how much force it disperses have an affect on the energy your body recieves?

When you impact anything at 150 mph or more, your head will snap forward so quickly it will severe your spine at the forsaken magnum. And sometimes, in very extreme cases, even DNA may not be enough (like the tissue may be too contaminated, or there's no DNA on file to compare it to). If you don't mind I'm gonna ask a follow up question: How do, sometimes, passengers' belongings (suitcases) resist the crash enough that they can find info to help indentify the victims? This is how it was for me after a car accident a few years ago. Now studies indicate that humans can identify an image as fast as 13 ms (1.3 hundredths of a second).

You get to see ahead, at most, about 20 meters.

One example of this is 9/11 victims: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2019/09/11/18-years-later-experts-are-still-working-to-identify-remains-of-911-victims/. The largest aircraft is a 747, at 76 meters. I'm just having a hard time imagining someone you grow up watching on TV in a horrific state. It would be too quick to process, and I'd be dead so I'd have no memory, but it would be a trippy half second. Dentals can be compared with photos of victims smiling, etc. I contemplated what the passengers in the airliners hitting the WTC on 9/11 would have seen... essentially they would see for literally a split second a wall of plane debris then dead. In addition, crashes usually do not result in complete obliteration or the remains. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CatastrophicFailure community, Continue browsing in r/CatastrophicFailure.

An airliner is a big aluminum can... there would be no impact to cause loss of consciousness, just debris and dead. This community is home to verified forensic science professionals and students who are passionate about their work. I'm quite impressed that teeth can resist such extreme conditions. They will tell you that they have no recollection of being hit. And this detailed what it was like since the plane went almost nose down in a spiral. I'm impressed, Very fell pieces of body parts, probably very minimal and also big parts of bodies, but depends; overall the fire burned the bodies, so the bodies are very black or grey, being silk in texture overall, but identity is made to know the family member dead in the lab of DNA so it can trace the family origin and know who it is, who the body is, the pieces; tbh not very efecctive, but good overall for those who want to identify the body of the family member who was in the plane that got crashed, I have read that most of time it's just like they were cremated or even vaporized, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the morbidquestions community, Press J to jump to the feed.